The Dixiecrat Myth

The left is quite annoyed that myself and others dare link the racist, segregationist past in this country to Democrats, at that flies in the face of everything they claim to champion, when it comes to civil rights, racial tolerance, etc.

The Democrats’ own website, to this day, attempts to take fraudulently credit for the civil rights movement and legislation, and when called on it, the recitation is the same: “we’ve grown” and “don’t forget about the Dixiecrats”.

Defensive liberals claim the Dixiecrats, as a whole, defected from the Democrat Party when President Johnson signed the Civil Rights Act of 1964 (no thanks to Democrats), and became Republicans which they claimed were more accepting of segregationist policies.

Well, I decided to get some opinions on the matter from some historians.

I contacted Professor Larry Schweikart of the University of Dayton for advice. Larry and I worked on a documentary based on a chapter on Ronald Reagan from his best-selling book, A Patriot’s History of the United States.

The idea that “the Dixiecrats joined the Republicans” is not quite true, as you note. But because of Strom Thurmond it is accepted as a fact. What happened is that the **next** generation (post 1965) of white southern politicians — Newt, Trent Lott, Ashcroft, Cochran, Alexander, etc — joined the GOP.

So it was really a passing of the torch as the old segregationists retired and were replaced by new young GOP guys. One particularly galling aspect to generalizations about “segregationists became GOP” is that the new GOP South was INTEGRATED for crying out loud, they accepted the Civil Rights revolution. Meanwhile, Jimmy Carter led a group of what would become “New” Democrats like Clinton and Al Gore.

Larry also suggested I contact Mike Allen, Professor of History at the University of Washington, Tacoma (who also appeared in the Reagan documentary) for input.

There weren’t many Republicans in the South prior to 1964, but that doesn’t mean the birth of the souther GOP was tied to “white racism.” That said, I am sure there were and are white racist southern GOP. No one would deny that. But it was the southern Democrats who were the party of slavery and, later, segregation. It was George Wallace, not John Tower, who stood in the southern schoolhouse door to block desegregation! The vast majority of Congressional GOP voted FOR the Civil Rights of 1964-65. The vast majority of those opposed to those acts were southern Democrats. Southern Democrats led to infamous filibuster of the 1964 Civil Rights Act.

The confusion arises from GOP Barry Goldwater’s vote against the ’64 act. He had voted in favor or all earlier bills and had led the integration of the Arizona Air National Guard, but he didn’t like the “private property” aspects of the ’64 law. In other words, Goldwater believed people’s private businesses and private clubs were subject only to market forces, not government mandates (“We reserve the right to refuse service to anyone.”) His vote against the Civil Rights Act was because of that one provision was, to my mind, a principled mistake.

This stance is what won Goldwater the South in 1964, and no doubt many racists voted for Goldwater in the mistaken belief that he opposed Negro Civil Rights. But Goldwater was not a racist; he was a libertarian who favored both civil rights and property rights.

Switch to 1968.

Richard Nixon was also a proponent of Civil Rights; it was a CA colleague who urged Ike to appoint Warren to the Supreme Court; he was a supporter of  Brown v. Board, and favored sending troops to integrate Little Rock High). Nixon saw he could develop a “Southern strategy” based on Goldwater’s inroads. He did, but Independent Democrat George Wallace carried most of the deep south in 68. By 1972, however, Wallace was shot and paralyzed, and Nixon began to tilt the south to the GOP. The old guard Democrats began to fade away while a new generation of Southern politicians became Republicans. True, Strom Thurmond switched to GOP, but most of the old timers (Fulbright, Gore, Wallace, Byrd etc etc) retired as Dems.

Why did a new generation white Southerners join the GOP? Not because they thought Republicans were racists who would return the South to segregation, but because the GOP was a “local government, small government” party in the old Jeffersonian tradition. Southerners wanted less government and the GOP was their natural home.

Jimmy Carter, a Civil Rights Democrat, briefly returned some states to the Democrat fold, but in 1980, Goldwater’s heir, Ronald Reagan, sealed this deal for the GOP. The new ”Solid South” was solid GOP.

BUT, and we must stress this: the new southern Republicans were *integrationist* Republicans who accepted the Civil Rights revolution and full integration while retaining their love of Jeffersonian limited government principles.

I’m sure the more learned Democrats will have issues with these explanations.

Oh well.

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  • Trishmac

    Thanks for that Bob! Very informative, and I love to have ammo like this for the inevitable arguments with liberals about racisim and party alliances.

  • The Machine

    Well, the logical approach is good for us, because knowledge is power, but don’t expect the logical argument to have any effect at all on the average leftoid, for what they suffer from is a mental disorder and such will never respond to the logical argument, it only serves to entrench them deeper into their psychosis.

    These are people who swear up and down that there can be more than one truth and that there can be no such thing as an absolute truth, after all.

  • Trishmac

    That’s true Machine, I often make the mistake of believing I may be able to get through to a lefty.
    My hubby says I am an incurable romantic, whenever I am “surprised” at the behaviors of some of the liberals we know.
    I just keep thinking that logic and common sense are natural occurrences, while apparently there are those among us who were not endowed with those traits!

  • eNeecie

    Can the Democrats claim they have changed if they never admit they had a problem? For the last few decades they have been promoting a Goebbels-type propaganda campaign aimed at making people believe that the two parties magically changed places sometime in the 1950s or 1960s. The most recent example of this was Reid’s quote criticizing the Republicans’ opposition to the health care bill by comparing it to those who opposed slavery and civil right, saying the Republicans wouldn’t want to be on “the wrong side of history” again.

    I am a Texas Republican and man, do I get sick of the racist label. Especially since the only open, n-word using racists I have ever met were all Democrats. In fact, the only case of job discrimination that I am personally aware of, where a man (a Gulf War vet, no less) was fired because of his race, was perpetrated by a Yankee, ponytailed liberal Democrat.

  • Igor

    I’m sure the more learned Democrats will have issues with these explanations.

    Find me a shrill shill Democrap race-baiter that is “learned”. Go ahead. I’m waiting.

    In the meantime we have to be patient with them. Sheesh!

    Good luck with the “logic” thing, Machine. It’s like hitting your head with a hammer – it feels sooooo good when you stop.

    Igor

  • http://sgthartsock.blogspot.com/ Nicolas

    do you think you could put this in the “special stuff” category on the right hand side of the site? I think more people need to know about this stuff

  • http://sgthartsock.blogspot.com/ Nicolas

    oh also, I remember you said back on february 1st I believe “not much has changed..”. That’s a good thing for most Republicans, as we STILL don’t and never will see skin color as a merit of worth, as it’s part of our upbringing (it was for me). Hell currently, I have a thing for a gorgeous conservative republican woman that I know, which speaks to my colorblind nature. For the most part, one of the points we’ve mentioned periodically is that if you ever want to know what a liberal is guilty of, listen to their criticism of conservatives

  • http://www.syblemind.blogspot.com Syble

    @nicolas
    She is very pretty!!

  • http://mauser.livejournal.com Mauser

    I have had this argument so many times that I’m going to quote the whole thing outright, and link to it, of course.

  • n.n

    The devil is always in the details. We would like to think about the future, but the past is always present to haunt us. This will be one less issue to think about.

    Thank you, Bob, for doing the research.

  • MissJean

    I remember when my high school government teacher (also an office-holding Democrat) told us that Nixon did more for Civil Rights than JFK ever did. Oh, the shock and horror!

  • JR

    I was recently having a Youtube comment war with a lib on this subject. He had no clue, of course. Didn’t even know MLKJ was a Republican, said he was a Democrat. Even thought Lee Harvey Oswald was a conservative. This guy was a good deal older than me. How long have they been teaching this crap in the government schools?

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  • JunkScienceSkeptic

    To the idea that Southern segregationists moved to the GOP and that the GOP has subsequently been detrimental to the South, let me pass along two words:

    “Atlanta, Detroit”

    Tells you about all you need to know, eh?

  • http://www.craigfarmer.blogspot.com newliberal

    I believe in free speech. But people who don’t can point to posts like this to show the damage. I’ll lead with facts:

    Strom Thurmond who was a “dixiecrat” switched to republicans in 1964 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strom_thurmond. He ran on a racist platform 1948, and moved with the conservatives from dem to rep. in the 1960′s.

    When politicians of that era use “local control, state’s rights” it may have had many meanings, but one of the most prevalant was segregation and racism. That is undisputed.

  • http://black-and-right.com Bob

    @newliberal
    Strom Thurmond was one of the first senators to hire a black staffer. Would a racist in a racist party do that while Democrat Robert Byrd was filibustering the Civil Rights Act?

    And you’ve also admitted there were racists in the Democrat Party. You just left a bunch out. Wikipedia as a source? I guess you are a “new liberal”.

  • http://www.craigfarmer.blogspot.com newliberal

    lastly,
    people are conflating northern liberal republicans-who today would resemble democrats. and western more liberaterian republicans with southern republicans;
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_Rights_Act_of_1964
    shows of the 10 southern republican senations
    0 out 10 voted for civil rights.

    they then used this as a base to expand

  • http://www.craigfarmer.blogspot.com newliberal

    i’m a proud democrat. the southern wing of our party was racist through the 1960′s. Some like byrd, hollings, stayed and changed (presumably), while others (and their voters) left to be indepdents and republicans. It is nonsense to argue that southern republicans supported the liberal goals of the civil rights movement.

    At one time, both parties had conservatives, moderates, and liberals. Where liberal republicans were just that. and conservative democrats were just that. Today, the most conservative democrat (ben nelson or lieberman) would be a liberal republican. And the most liberal republican would be a conservative democrats. The party’s have separated by ideology. People take this reality and try to confuse the history.

    Conservatives (used to be dems) support less taxes, less regulationi, less big goverment intrusion, move to republicans esp. in the face of big government forcing regulations (racial) that they disliked, and to pay taxes to force schools to open up.

    Please be serious.

  • http://black-and-right.com Bob

    And I can appreciate the response because no one likes being called a racist when they know they’re not, right newlib?

    But the point of the original piece (which the argumentative left always ignores) is the two paragraphs on the Democrats.org’s “History” says to this day,

    “Democrats are unwavering in our support of equal opportunity for all Americans. That’s why we’ve worked to pass every one of our nation’s Civil Rights laws, and every law that protects workers. Most recently, Democrats stood together to reauthorize the Voting Rights Act.

    On every civil rights issue, Democrats have led the fight.”

    THAT IS A LIE and to defend that makes one what…?

  • http://www.craigfarmer.blogspot.com newliberal

    If the focus is whether Democrats passed every one of our nation’s civil rigthts laws, that is a lie. It is not accurate.

    But…
    Democrats, liberal democrats and moderates were the impetus of the recent (1960′s – present). In addition, Democratic presidents were instrumental in changes.

    I was focusing on the idea that racist democrats migrated to the Republican party. That is true. Today, if you are a person who believes in white superiority. You either don’t vote, vote extreme right wing, or vote democratic for President. On the local level it is more complex because some Democrats in the south are still descendants of dixiecrats but the trend is clear.

    Republicans believe in less govt. Less government when the society is racist = a party that supports racism.

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  • John

    All you right-wing ideologues parrot the same crap!!!! Revisionists… Keep pushing and you'll get what you don't want. The middleclass will revolt against you B's and the ELITE's you pimp for. John C.

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      • http://www.black-and-right.com/ BobParks

        After how many hundreds of words, you demand I prove my case while the only wisdom you can come up with is "you're an idiot. plain and simple".

        And you wonder why no one takes the youth seriously.

    • http://www.black-and-right.com/ BobParks

      Your well thought out retort, John…?

  • Chris

    Can you disprove these claims, John?

  • Mom

    Strom Thurmond, like any politician, ran on any platform he thought would get him elected (1948). He had an illegitimate black daughter that he took care of (financially) his whole life. Perhaps his change to the party of Lincoln (first Republican President) was getting tired of the racist Democrats.

    The Republican Party was created in 1854 with one of it’s main purposes was to abolish slavery.

    The Democratic Party had a 40 year control of both the House and the Senate (40s to 90s). From 1958 to 1968, the least number of Democratic Senators was 64. The most, over the same ten year period, was 68. Do you all remember the big deal of which party in both 2008 and 2010 could get to 60 or keep the other from achieving 60?

    Why, with 64-68 Democratic Senators from 1958-68 did the Democrats have such a hard time passing the Civil Rights Bill? They controlled the House and had more than a majority (some say super) in the Senate. Why so hard to pass?

  • val1224

    Democrats have always had a “thug arm” of their party to keep voters in line.  In the old days it was the KKK.  Today it is unions, groups such as SEIU, etc.  Ingeniously, they also now use groups like the NAACP.  You have to hand it to them – it’s pretty ingenious to use blacks to keep other blacks “in their place”.  How very sad that black America has allowed themselves to be enslaved once again.  I am yearning for the day when blacks in this great nation realize the glory of the INDIVIDUAL and realize that they live in a country where they have develop their own thoughts and ideas and, yes, even VOTE the way they want, rather than waiting to see how Jesse Jackson tells them to vote for.

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  • kvernon

    I think the basic analysis here is skewed when you try to make the concept rest on party, i.e., the Democrats were the racist or the Republicans are the racist. Fact of the matter is the ideology of both parties changed over the years, so this should be analyzed by ideology, Conservatives v Liberals.

    To say that the Lincoln Republicans are the same ideologically as Nixon, Reagan, Bush or the current contenders is a miscue. Likewise you cannot compare Reconstruction era Southern Democrats with todays democrats, what can be compared is the concepts of conservatism and liberalism, those remain by definition relatively constant. The variables would be societal changes along the timeline of American history, which affects the definitions somewhat, civil rights, women’s suffrage, and other issues that affect what a conservative or liberal believes as our society changes. So the terms have to be parsed out these days to exact a finer point, such as Socially Liberal /  Fiscally Conservative. I’m not sure Liberals make the same kinds of distinctions due to the nature of liberalism, though I have heard even liberals describe themselves as Socially Liberal but Fiscally Conservative, usually they claim to be Independents, but this becomes another debate which is more along the lines of how one see’s themselves ideologically vs how others might see him, Like most conservatives viewing anyone moderate to left as Liberal, You know, RINO’s and such but forgive the departure.

    That said, you will likely have racist from both “parties”, but which ideology is more likely to have racist? Or a better questions is which ideology would a racist find him or herself more likely to adhere to?

    I am well aware of the concept that dependence on the government makes victims of people, which might be construed as “racist” by some, This argument fails when you realize that if the government makes victims, it is regardless of race. There are plenty of poor whites out there in the same governmental “trick bag” as blacks and hispanics.

    I have taken the opportunity to avail myself to a not so random sample of people who claim to be Conservatives and Republicans on an internet forum kind of like this, and when they had the occasion to express their racism (which seemed to be frequently), I took the liberty to ask what party or ideology they claimed. They would pretty consistently say “I’m not a Republican” I’m a Conservative”.  I was a moderator on that board for several years and it got to the point after Obama was elected that it became unbearable to remain a moderator or a member. Basically it wasn’t the complaints about policy, but because all objectivity was gone from any political discourse and blatant racism had become very pervasive. Or the argument became very trite … like the above post, about the NAACP saying colored, why can’t I. Or a generally expressed hatred of Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton, which was extremely common and usually without context to the topic.

     

  • joshua0853

    Kvernon:

    Sorry, but I must take issue with the last part of your post. You know, the part that mentions a sampling of “conservatives and Republicans” as frequently expressing their racism. I don’t believe you. On second thought, let me say this: There are two other possibilities:

    1. You perceived racial motive when there really was none. Example: A conservative expresses concern about the way many young men in the Black community dress (pants down past their butts). You might ascribe that concern as being racist when all they mean is that such behavior tends to prevent those young Black men from succeeding in life and reaching their goals.
    2. Is it possible that some of those people were lying to you? It wouldn’t be the first time someone lied to somebody taking a poll. Just a thought.

    Perhaps your intent was honest; I can’t judge that. What I can judge is my experience with conservatives and Republicans of all colors. It does not match up with your assessment. I am Black, and conservative. I used to be a Democrat but I left that Plantation once I wised up and saw that party for what it was…and is.

    Seriously, I wish I had time to go into some detail here, but I’m cramming for finals and just happened to see this post on a friend’s pc. You are so wrong on this issue. I know from personal experience spanning some 22 years or better; seen  through the prism of having lived through the turbulent 60s and 70s. I don’t claim that there are no Republican racists–I can’t know that for certain. However, I can claim that I’ve met very few; and NONE in the Tea Party, of which I am a member. I know racism. I’ve been personally affected by it. I’ve experienced it up close and personal. Hostility of that kind cannot be hidden for long. If it exists within conservatism, the Republican Party, and the Tea Party, especially to the extent claimed by liberals, I WOULD KNOW IT! And I would have no part in it, if that was the case.

    There is so much more I’d like to say, but I must get back to the books. Four final exams in four days…can’t wait for it to be over!

    • GoodMojo

      Extremely well expressed, sir!  I hope your finals went well!

  • Justin

    @kvernon

    The first paragraph of your comment sums it up perfectly.

    I would never claim that Republicans were/are racist or that Democrats were/racist. It’s not about the party, it’s about the racists who follow(ed) eiter party. The racists used to vote Democrat, now they vote Republican. While it is a fact that racists used to be Democrats, it’s silly for anyone to try to use that irrelevant fact to take attention off of the racism sitting comfortably within the GOP since the 1960s.

  • 4joachim

    Republicans talk too much. People’s eye glaze over after the second sentence.

    Democrats managed to create the fake out that they were helping blacks. They lied. America bought it.,” American History in Black and White, Setting the Record Straight,” by Barton, is short sweet and to-the-point.

    Republicans freed the slaves. There were already black legislators until Woodrow Wilson SEGREGATED U.S.

    Democrats FOUGHT TO KEEP SLAVERY, even after the Republicans set them free.

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