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		<title>By: JR</title>
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		<dc:creator>JR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 00:05:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does not anyone see the inherent counterproductivity in the delivery of the carbon propaganda?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does not anyone see the inherent counterproductivity in the delivery of the carbon propaganda?</p>
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		<title>By: PB-in-AL</title>
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		<dc:creator>PB-in-AL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 16:31:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@fboiteau - I don&#039;t hate anyone over such... well, except for Comcast, to whom I am beholden for this service, and at whatever rate they choose. Unfortunately, I have to have high speed for work, no NetZero.

I&#039;ve never understood the &quot;digital divide&quot; crap. Sure it&#039;s important for folks to become familiar with the operation of computers nowadays. However, the internet is hardly required.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@fboiteau &#8211; I don&#8217;t hate anyone over such&#8230; well, except for Comcast, to whom I am beholden for this service, and at whatever rate they choose. Unfortunately, I have to have high speed for work, no NetZero.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve never understood the &#8220;digital divide&#8221; crap. Sure it&#8217;s important for folks to become familiar with the operation of computers nowadays. However, the internet is hardly required.</p>
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		<title>By: Igor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Igor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 15:29:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sigh.  Just as the Gubmint did the REC (Rural Electric Co-op) to get electricity out to the boonies, now they want to take it one step further and do the same with the Intartubes...

First, most of the people (over 90% IIRC) of the peepul live in cities.  Connections abound: broadband, DSL, Dialup, Wi-Fi.  Cost money, so as Syble says, &quot;have the old lady quit smokin’ and drinkin’ and pony up that 30 bucks for junior!&quot;.  TANSTAAFL, people.  (look TANSTAFFL up, for all you who didn&#039;t read Heinlein...)

Second, there is no &quot;divide&quot;, just people to lazy/cheap to pay for something.  Y&#039;all want free gas now?  Free car?  Oh, wait...

Third, I &lt;i&gt;hope&lt;/i&gt; you &lt;i&gt;change&lt;/i&gt; your attitude about anything that starts with &quot;Give me...&quot; as it is bankrupting our wonderful country.

The effort to electrify the rural areas were a godsend to farmers, it made their lives so much easier - try running a farm without electricity.
Internet access?  Start a Wi-Fi co-op yourself, do dialup, get a Hughes account.  Spend YOUR money, not mine.

Just being realistic here.

Igor

Disclaimer:  I *am* a Systems/Network/Communications Engineer and know whereof I speak, I&#039;ve done all of the above.  So there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sigh.  Just as the Gubmint did the REC (Rural Electric Co-op) to get electricity out to the boonies, now they want to take it one step further and do the same with the Intartubes&#8230;</p>
<p>First, most of the people (over 90% IIRC) of the peepul live in cities.  Connections abound: broadband, DSL, Dialup, Wi-Fi.  Cost money, so as Syble says, &#8220;have the old lady quit smokin’ and drinkin’ and pony up that 30 bucks for junior!&#8221;.  TANSTAAFL, people.  (look TANSTAFFL up, for all you who didn&#8217;t read Heinlein&#8230;)</p>
<p>Second, there is no &#8220;divide&#8221;, just people to lazy/cheap to pay for something.  Y&#8217;all want free gas now?  Free car?  Oh, wait&#8230;</p>
<p>Third, I <i>hope</i> you <i>change</i> your attitude about anything that starts with &#8220;Give me&#8230;&#8221; as it is bankrupting our wonderful country.</p>
<p>The effort to electrify the rural areas were a godsend to farmers, it made their lives so much easier &#8211; try running a farm without electricity.<br />
Internet access?  Start a Wi-Fi co-op yourself, do dialup, get a Hughes account.  Spend YOUR money, not mine.</p>
<p>Just being realistic here.</p>
<p>Igor</p>
<p>Disclaimer:  I *am* a Systems/Network/Communications Engineer and know whereof I speak, I&#8217;ve done all of the above.  So there.</p>
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		<title>By: Syble</title>
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		<dc:creator>Syble</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 12:41:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, I&#039;d bet that all of those &quot;pooooooor&quot; disadvantaged kids have PREMIUM CABLE TV at their homes. 

If they add internet, it&#039;s just an extra $30 a month. Heck, have the old lady quit smokin&#039; and drinkin&#039; and pony up that 30 bucks for junior!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, I&#8217;d bet that all of those &#8220;pooooooor&#8221; disadvantaged kids have PREMIUM CABLE TV at their homes. </p>
<p>If they add internet, it&#8217;s just an extra $30 a month. Heck, have the old lady quit smokin&#8217; and drinkin&#8217; and pony up that 30 bucks for junior!</p>
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		<title>By: n.n</title>
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		<dc:creator>n.n</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 02:19:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>fboiteau:

I don&#039;t know if I like you, but I certainly don&#039;t hate you.

with voice service+features: $25 for 7, $37 after 12 mon.
with basic voice service: $30 for 7, $42 after 12 mon.
without voice service: $35 for 7, $47 after 12 mo.

Qwest offers 7 Mbps (and higher), but I don&#039;t need it.  In any case, I consider it fair and reasonable, but I am not familiar with the pricing in other markets, so other people&#039;s encounter with fairness may vary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>fboiteau:</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know if I like you, but I certainly don&#8217;t hate you.</p>
<p>with voice service+features: $25 for 7, $37 after 12 mon.<br />
with basic voice service: $30 for 7, $42 after 12 mon.<br />
without voice service: $35 for 7, $47 after 12 mo.</p>
<p>Qwest offers 7 Mbps (and higher), but I don&#8217;t need it.  In any case, I consider it fair and reasonable, but I am not familiar with the pricing in other markets, so other people&#8217;s encounter with fairness may vary.</p>
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		<title>By: fboiteau</title>
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		<dc:creator>fboiteau</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 00:23:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@n.n

you&#039;ll hate me.

I get a 5 Mbps DSL line for 35$/month</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@n.n</p>
<p>you&#8217;ll hate me.</p>
<p>I get a 5 Mbps DSL line for 35$/month</p>
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		<title>By: n.n</title>
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		<dc:creator>n.n</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 23:59:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I already knew that academic achievement was not a good indicator of intelligence, and now I have learned that physical beauty reflects poorly -- who would have guessed.

The left-wing lunatics are desperate!  And the regressive women could care less how, when, and where they are exploited.

&lt;i&gt;The more you know!&lt;/i&gt;
-- A PSA not sponsored by NBC</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I already knew that academic achievement was not a good indicator of intelligence, and now I have learned that physical beauty reflects poorly &#8212; who would have guessed.</p>
<p>The left-wing lunatics are desperate!  And the regressive women could care less how, when, and where they are exploited.</p>
<p><i>The more you know!</i><br />
&#8211; A PSA not sponsored by NBC</p>
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		<title>By: BHD</title>
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		<dc:creator>BHD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 23:55:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Free Internet or Free Computers? Free Internet is everywhere. I know where to go and where to get it on my laptop, heck I would say 9/10 coffee houses (not starbucks, but mom and pops) offer free internet. Computers that are trashed are trashed mainly due to them being just that trash, old and not working. These kids are in school learning about computers, why is no one teaching them that old out dated trash is trash for a reason. Sure can most of them still be used by others, of course, and I know of plenty of places that are out there that ask for old machines from people. Everything they asked for in this video is already out there. The only difference is that it isn&#039;t free. I had to work and save to buy my mac, my friends who want macs over pc&#039;s work and save to purchase one, same for PC users... but we have to not buy other things so we can have a computer. These people need to stop complaining and learn what it means to work for a living. AHHHHHH</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Free Internet or Free Computers? Free Internet is everywhere. I know where to go and where to get it on my laptop, heck I would say 9/10 coffee houses (not starbucks, but mom and pops) offer free internet. Computers that are trashed are trashed mainly due to them being just that trash, old and not working. These kids are in school learning about computers, why is no one teaching them that old out dated trash is trash for a reason. Sure can most of them still be used by others, of course, and I know of plenty of places that are out there that ask for old machines from people. Everything they asked for in this video is already out there. The only difference is that it isn&#8217;t free. I had to work and save to buy my mac, my friends who want macs over pc&#8217;s work and save to purchase one, same for PC users&#8230; but we have to not buy other things so we can have a computer. These people need to stop complaining and learn what it means to work for a living. AHHHHHH</p>
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		<title>By: n.n</title>
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		<dc:creator>n.n</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 23:51:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Qwest (in Utah)

$9.95/month = NetZero 56k (sufficient for most WWW activities, excluding high-bandwidth multimedia and gaming applications)

or

$25/month = 1.5 M/896 K DSL (with voice)
$30/month = (w/o voice)

Seems fair and reasonable.  I have the 1.5 Mbps DSL service, which has been both reliable and provides a consistent 1.4 Mbps bandwidth (excluding TCP/IP overhead and losses).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Qwest (in Utah)</p>
<p>$9.95/month = NetZero 56k (sufficient for most WWW activities, excluding high-bandwidth multimedia and gaming applications)</p>
<p>or</p>
<p>$25/month = 1.5 M/896 K DSL (with voice)<br />
$30/month = (w/o voice)</p>
<p>Seems fair and reasonable.  I have the 1.5 Mbps DSL service, which has been both reliable and provides a consistent 1.4 Mbps bandwidth (excluding TCP/IP overhead and losses).</p>
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		<title>By: ortzinator</title>
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		<dc:creator>ortzinator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 22:34:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Internet access is expensive because there is NO COMPETITION.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Internet access is expensive because there is NO COMPETITION.</p>
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		<title>By: Syble</title>
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		<dc:creator>Syble</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 21:41:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>arghhh.... the youngest GIMMEE generation is now old enough to face the cameras. First they &#039;ask;&#039;  then they&#039;ll demand; finally, they will push for more program legislation.  They wouldn&#039;t understand the meaning of personal responsibility if it walked up to them and threw a bag of S*%T in their faces.  Dang!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>arghhh&#8230;. the youngest GIMMEE generation is now old enough to face the cameras. First they &#8216;ask;&#8217;  then they&#8217;ll demand; finally, they will push for more program legislation.  They wouldn&#8217;t understand the meaning of personal responsibility if it walked up to them and threw a bag of S*%T in their faces.  Dang!</p>
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		<title>By: srdb</title>
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		<dc:creator>srdb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 21:13:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tell us how we can overcome the digital divide?  Who cares?  Having a computer won&#039;t make you smarter, the internet only works if the electricity does, AND... you can&#039;t eat a keyboard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tell us how we can overcome the digital divide?  Who cares?  Having a computer won&#8217;t make you smarter, the internet only works if the electricity does, AND&#8230; you can&#8217;t eat a keyboard.</p>
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		<title>By: n.n</title>
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		<dc:creator>n.n</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 21:03:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Tell us how we can overcome the digital division.&lt;/i&gt;

Get a job!  Moderate your purchases.  Stop exploiting others to satisfy your selfish whims.

There is no digital divide.  The library is full of books, read them.  The public schools are open to all (including illegal immigrants and other criminals), so learn to think for yourself.  It&#039;s not that difficult.  People of all shapes, sizes, and colors have been doing this for thousands of years.

The &quot;now generation&quot; and &quot;me generation&quot; have combined forces.  More regressive &quot;hope and change&quot; at the expense of the productive and charitable.  What ever happened to self-sacrifice, personal responsibility, and investment in the future?

Just as important, who funds this garbage?

Note to regressives: Money and technology are insufficient to correct your bad attitude.

Oh, one more thing.  It&#039;s not debt.  It is compensation you owe others for the products and services which you have chosen to consume.  So, stop being deadbeats.

A computer and access to the Internet will not provide the enlightenment you seek, and desperately need.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Tell us how we can overcome the digital division.</i></p>
<p>Get a job!  Moderate your purchases.  Stop exploiting others to satisfy your selfish whims.</p>
<p>There is no digital divide.  The library is full of books, read them.  The public schools are open to all (including illegal immigrants and other criminals), so learn to think for yourself.  It&#8217;s not that difficult.  People of all shapes, sizes, and colors have been doing this for thousands of years.</p>
<p>The &#8220;now generation&#8221; and &#8220;me generation&#8221; have combined forces.  More regressive &#8220;hope and change&#8221; at the expense of the productive and charitable.  What ever happened to self-sacrifice, personal responsibility, and investment in the future?</p>
<p>Just as important, who funds this garbage?</p>
<p>Note to regressives: Money and technology are insufficient to correct your bad attitude.</p>
<p>Oh, one more thing.  It&#8217;s not debt.  It is compensation you owe others for the products and services which you have chosen to consume.  So, stop being deadbeats.</p>
<p>A computer and access to the Internet will not provide the enlightenment you seek, and desperately need.</p>
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		<title>By: 404_Name_Not_Found</title>
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		<dc:creator>404_Name_Not_Found</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 20:57:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Taught how to internet eh?</description>
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