One of the reasons the black community routinely distances themselves with the GLBT community is because in order to make their cause relevant, gays compare the “crap” they go through to what blacks went through for centuries. Let’s remember, from slavery to segregation, blacks didn’t conduct “pride” parades or force black awareness into the school curriculum…
I saw an elderly Korean War vet with a huge smile, waving a rainbow flag and holding a sign that said, “Ask Me and I’ll Tell You!”, and I remembered one of my favorite quotes:
“I think every Negro over fifty should get a medal for putting up with all that crap.”
— Miles Davis
It all depends on what your definition of “crap” is.
It struck me that the point of the Pride Festival and the Pride Parade wasn’t just for GLBT people to be proud of themselves. Feeling proud of yourself is harder when you’re part of a stigmatized minority, to be sure… but it’s part of being a complete human, no matter what your specifics are. That parade did something else, too: it gave us straight folk an opportunity to say how Proud we were, of the members of our human family who have had to put up with so much crap over the years, simply for being who they were. Those of us who haven’t had to put up with so much crap can only make analogies, and analogies can only go so far in helping you understand something you’ve never experienced.
Maybe I missed those historical pics, but I don’t recall blacks holding up signs in front of segregated schools or restaurants that read, “You call us nigger, we’ll call you whitey”. But gays have rubbed their agenda in our faces, on our streets, into our classrooms, and any criticism is called hate speech.
And they wonder why President Obama has turned his back on them.
Mr Parks,
I certainly do not mean to minimize any “crap” that you or any other black American experienced. And I certainly will never fault you for objecting to the obscenity of the “gay” activists trying to hijack the historic experience of black Americans.
But, at the same time, things were not quite what we are/were taught.
I was born (in 1957, to date me) and bred in Indiana. My father was a Southerner; specifically, he was “po’ white trash,” he grew up as a share-cropper.
The first family doctor I remember was a black man. I don’t know how old he was (when you’re little, every one seems “old”), I’m pretty sure he had whire hair; the point being that he *was* a doctor and that he became a doctor long before the obscenity of “affirmative action” … and that my family, culturally Southern, had no problem with that.
My father worked in a private club, and later a restaurant — in those days, restaurants were allowed to give the left-over food to their employees — and so he brought home foods we could never have had otherwise, and my parents shared this with the older (black and white) people in the neighborhood.
For half my childhood, my siblings and I were the only “white” (the quote-marks are because we’re @ 1/4 Indian) kids for many blocks around. For a couple of years, we attended a (black) store-front church.
I and my younger siblings learned about racism up close and personal … from black kids.
Don’t get me wrong. I’ve never said everyone had clean hands here.
When I come into a room, everyone knows I’m black. When some gay persons come into a room, they choose to push their sexuality into the conversation. If they face persecution or discrimination it’s because they brought it up in the first place.
Again, my point has always been when comparing the “crap” that gays have endured historically to that of blacks, there is no comparison.
I agree, totally.
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I used to have some “gay” friends, or at any rate, acquaintances … to be around one, or sometimes two, at a time was ok. But get more than that in the group, and all they can do is:
1) whinge about how persecuted they are
2) draw attention to themselves *as* “gays”
3) drool over passing strangers
4) bitch about how miserable they are.
My problem is with the gay lobby. Have you ever seen one organization try to push and coerce behavior, particularly being a significant minority population of any ethnicity? One of the biggest lessons I have learned in my life is when a person or group has to “push” or “oversell”, what they are selling isn’t valid. Concepts that are universally known and accepted are not pushed down one’s throat. There will be backlash to the homosexual agenda because, just like Obama, it just keeps getting thrown at us. The reasons and causes of one’s own sexuality have not been concretly laid out.thus, are still disputable. Just about everyone that I have known, male and female, who was gay, revealed that fact to me. I did not know. NO ONE who was Black had to “reveal” it to me. Big difference.
In my opinion, most people, deep down, have certain reservations with the gay agenda regarding grade school education,marriage, and social areas were most people, regardless of race, religion, gender, or age, tend to be conservative.
Thus, race is indisputable, sexuality is not. Since most people tend to congregate on the basis of race, someone who does not LOOK like the dominant group will alway face alot more issues than someone who does not ACT like that same group. Our first reaction is always to what we see.
hadn’t heard that qoute from Miles Davis, but I agree in a more broader sense that we all should be compensated for our time we’ve had to deal with gays..yeesh. That’s why I don’t go into certain districts of San Francisco whenever I visit ‘the city’.
“When I come into a room, everyone knows I’m black.”
us being Republicans, we thankfully don’t see color as some kind of indicator of stature. we just know you as Bob Parks – the fantastic and experienced writer, producer, and retired Sailor with the excellently quick wit.
Our physical features are undeniable and are independent of race or any other classification. Some of us have lighter skin and others darker, some shorter and others taller, some thinner and others fatter, etc. These features determine, in part, who we choose to date and select for physical intimacy. We choose friends, acquaintances, co-workers, etc., by other criteria, or, at least, we should. One of the most important being “like minded.”
As for “crap”, everyone should recognize and acknowledge that the “crap” has been experienced universally, at one time or another, in one place or another. If we choose to live in the past, we will never have a future.
As for pushback, the homosexual agenda will, like other regressive agendas, enforce existing and promote new prejudices. If they were not complicit in the creation of the KKK, Black Panthers, NCLR, ADL, etc., then their policies molded their members.
“Mayor of Boston sends welcome to gay/transgender youth event”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=551pklFwgbE
The rest of the Boston story:
“Kids attend prom from ‘sexual hell’”
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=100806
What ever happened to “get a room?”
And God said that if you perform the first depraved act that He would allow you to open up to all manner of depravity and that you would not even know that you were doing it.
Many valuable points made above… I have some dear friends from high school that are homosexual. On Facebook, I joined a “cause” called “support Miss California”. I got a private message from one friend asking why. I told her that regardless of one’s viewpoints, it is important that people not be vilified simply for having beliefs. I pointed out the fact that she didn’t go out of her way to do this, it was somebody else pushing the agenda and that my belief is one in support of free speech.
She responded that I was free to remove her from my facebook list if I couldn’t be tolerant of gays and felt the need to support homophobia and that people do NOT have the right to have certain beliefs and one against gay marriage is a belief that people are NOT allowed to have. She then removed me from her facebook list (I had no intention of doing so, I had known for ages she was gay and I didn’t worry about it.)
So much for the tolerant left.