Comments on: The Army’s Unequal Opportunity Program http://www.black-and-right.com/2008/12/09/the-army%e2%80%99s-unequal-opportunity-program/ Clean, articulate, with no Negro dialect, unless I want to have one Fri, 19 Mar 2010 10:06:00 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: jimmylewis http://www.black-and-right.com/2008/12/09/the-army%e2%80%99s-unequal-opportunity-program/comment-page-1/#comment-21914 jimmylewis Tue, 09 Dec 2008 17:13:36 +0000 http://www.black-and-right.com/?p=12629#comment-21914 " ... that is unless your aim is to keep them in the victim class." Spot On!!!!!! In the limited three months that I have faithfully been following your blog ... this has to be (out of the many great articles) the absolute best that I've read. Incredible Job Bob!!! I would love to see Reuters, AP, Drudge, among others, pick this up or place a link to it. I know, I know ... I'm not holding my breath. I applaud you ... and I'm standing!!! Jimmy Lewis SCS, Michigan Blog: http://rougerevival.blogspot.com/ ” … that is unless your aim is to keep them in the victim class.” Spot On!!!!!!

In the limited three months that I have faithfully been following your blog … this has to be (out of the many great articles) the absolute best that I’ve read. Incredible Job Bob!!!

I would love to see Reuters, AP, Drudge, among others, pick this up or place a link to it. I know, I know … I’m not holding my breath.

I applaud you … and I’m standing!!!

Jimmy Lewis
SCS, Michigan
Blog: http://rougerevival.blogspot.com/

]]> By: Kushin Los http://www.black-and-right.com/2008/12/09/the-army%e2%80%99s-unequal-opportunity-program/comment-page-1/#comment-21913 Kushin Los Tue, 09 Dec 2008 16:34:26 +0000 http://www.black-and-right.com/?p=12629#comment-21913 In the short time I was in the Navy myself, I was told by the ship's shrink that I, being a white man, was going to be the bad guy in every argument with a non white/male. This was after an altercation that I knew where I was the one attacked for just wanting to get to my locker in berthing. There is more to it mind you and the guy and I never went to blows afterwords, but here I was being tolf that even though I was capable of seeing things from his viewpoint on the matter that I would never have the right to be angry. Up until then I had always felt guilty about being angry, it as then I learned that I had every right to be angry though not to let it control me. In other words, I repudiated her statements and I think I'm better for it. In the short time I was in the Navy myself, I was told by the ship’s shrink that I, being a white man, was going to be the bad guy in every argument with a non white/male. This was after an altercation that I knew where I was the one attacked for just wanting to get to my locker in berthing. There is more to it mind you and the guy and I never went to blows afterwords, but here I was being tolf that even though I was capable of seeing things from his viewpoint on the matter that I would never have the right to be angry.

Up until then I had always felt guilty about being angry, it as then I learned that I had every right to be angry though not to let it control me. In other words, I repudiated her statements and I think I’m better for it.

]]> By: John Galt http://www.black-and-right.com/2008/12/09/the-army%e2%80%99s-unequal-opportunity-program/comment-page-1/#comment-21902 John Galt Tue, 09 Dec 2008 14:35:55 +0000 http://www.black-and-right.com/?p=12629#comment-21902 My grammar could have been better in the last post, and my capitalization sucked as well. I was getting steadily more pissed as I wrote that and by the time I got to the end, my proofreading was not what it should have been. =( My grammar could have been better in the last post, and my capitalization sucked as well. I was getting steadily more pissed as I wrote that and by the time I got to the end, my proofreading was not what it should have been. =(

]]> By: John Galt http://www.black-and-right.com/2008/12/09/the-army%e2%80%99s-unequal-opportunity-program/comment-page-1/#comment-21901 John Galt Tue, 09 Dec 2008 14:33:17 +0000 http://www.black-and-right.com/?p=12629#comment-21901 As a 19 year career Navy Chief, I have not only seen this kind of stuff before, but I have been subjected to it myself. I must continually remind myself that any case where a dispute arises between a white male and a female, or a white sailor and a black one, the white male will ALWAYS be presumed guilty until he proves himself innocent. This is almost impossible to do, as the litmus for whether an incident occured is by regulation, purely subjective; as the only proof that 'discrimination' occured is whether the aggrieved servicemember "felt" that it had. If you are accused you WILL be raked over the coals, (because the CO's don't want even a whisper that they allow these incidents to go unreported/unpunished) and will have to attend some sort of "diversity training" to ensure that you are more 'sensitive to the feelings of minorities'. In fact, did I not have anonymity on this board, I would be expecting to get a flame from somewhere that I am "airing our dirty laundry in public" shortly followed by an inquisition as to how/why I could possibly think this is true. The fact of the matter is that, again by regulation, all commands in the DoD are REQUIRED to submit to the SECDEF's office an annual breakdown of all advancements, awards, and punishments that have been distributed through the command, broken down by race. This has a chilling effect on truly equitable award distibution, advancement and punishment because the CO's are paranoid that the data will make them look bad. as a result, there truly is a 2-tier system of justice in the DoD, where a white guy will get fried over stuff that a female or black can be reasonably sure of skating off from, especially if the ratios don't meet the racial litmus test. This is one of the reasons that DoD members tend to vote republican, as most of us detest the social meddling that liberal administrations force on the military in their attempts to use us as their own little social laboratory and/or playground. See the OPNAV 5354.1E enclosure 1 section 24, Enclosure 2 section 2a. The "reasonable person standard" as described is almost always used to browbeat the accused white male into admitting that even though he did think he was being offensive, that he was insensitive to the "institutionalized racism" he inherited from society/friends/family etc. and that he is therefor in need of deprogramming in a diversity workshop. these workshops are usually contracted out to a local college, and the one I attended when I was a PO1 was "facilitated" by a black woman with a HUGE chip on her shoulder. I kept my head down and mumbled my way through the class, as if I did not "pass" the class, I was told that disciplinary action would be forthcoming. It is heartening to know that some of my brothers and sisters on the outside see what is happening in the DoD though. As a 19 year career Navy Chief, I have not only seen this kind of stuff before, but I have been subjected to it myself. I must continually remind myself that any case where a dispute arises between a white male and a female, or a white sailor and a black one, the white male will ALWAYS be presumed guilty until he proves himself innocent. This is almost impossible to do, as the litmus for whether an incident occured is by regulation, purely subjective; as the only proof that ‘discrimination’ occured is whether the aggrieved servicemember “felt” that it had.
If you are accused you WILL be raked over the coals, (because the CO’s don’t want even a whisper that they allow these incidents to go unreported/unpunished) and will have to attend some sort of “diversity training” to ensure that you are more ’sensitive to the feelings of minorities’.
In fact, did I not have anonymity on this board, I would be expecting to get a flame from somewhere that I am “airing our dirty laundry in public” shortly followed by an inquisition as to how/why I could possibly think this is true.
The fact of the matter is that, again by regulation, all commands in the DoD are REQUIRED to submit to the SECDEF’s office an annual breakdown of all advancements, awards, and punishments that have been distributed through the command, broken down by race. This has a chilling effect on truly equitable award distibution, advancement and punishment because the CO’s are paranoid that the data will make them look bad. as a result, there truly is a 2-tier system of justice in the DoD, where a white guy will get fried over stuff that a female or black can be reasonably sure of skating off from, especially if the ratios don’t meet the racial litmus test.
This is one of the reasons that DoD members tend to vote republican, as most of us detest the social meddling that liberal administrations force on the military in their attempts to use us as their own little social laboratory and/or playground.
See the OPNAV 5354.1E enclosure 1 section 24, Enclosure 2 section 2a. The “reasonable person standard” as described is almost always used to browbeat the accused white male into admitting that even though he did think he was being offensive, that he was insensitive to the “institutionalized racism” he inherited from society/friends/family etc. and that he is therefor in need of deprogramming in a diversity workshop. these workshops are usually contracted out to a local college, and the one I attended when I was a PO1 was “facilitated” by a black woman with a HUGE chip on her shoulder. I kept my head down and mumbled my way through the class, as if I did not “pass” the class, I was told that disciplinary action would be forthcoming.
It is heartening to know that some of my brothers and sisters on the outside see what is happening in the DoD though.

]]> By: Cameron http://www.black-and-right.com/2008/12/09/the-army%e2%80%99s-unequal-opportunity-program/comment-page-1/#comment-21897 Cameron Tue, 09 Dec 2008 11:27:07 +0000 http://www.black-and-right.com/?p=12629#comment-21897 This is an infuriating article on many levels. The military is one of the last, best examples we have of a true melting pot and I don't like the idea of it being destroyed in the name of fake diversity. This is an infuriating article on many levels. The military is one of the last, best examples we have of a true melting pot and I don’t like the idea of it being destroyed in the name of fake diversity.

]]> By: Kushin Los http://www.black-and-right.com/2008/12/09/the-army%e2%80%99s-unequal-opportunity-program/comment-page-1/#comment-21896 Kushin Los Tue, 09 Dec 2008 06:30:48 +0000 http://www.black-and-right.com/?p=12629#comment-21896 I only read bits and pieces of this (I was still working out in my head all the things that pissed me off over some of the other posts), but does give anyone else here the feeling that the armed forces are going to get a political officer to ensure everyone follows the rules? Like they had in Soviet Russia? I only read bits and pieces of this (I was still working out in my head all the things that pissed me off over some of the other posts), but does give anyone else here the feeling that the armed forces are going to get a political officer to ensure everyone follows the rules? Like they had in Soviet Russia?

]]> By: tv2112 http://www.black-and-right.com/2008/12/09/the-army%e2%80%99s-unequal-opportunity-program/comment-page-1/#comment-21886 tv2112 Tue, 09 Dec 2008 02:45:51 +0000 http://www.black-and-right.com/?p=12629#comment-21886 PC has unfortunately embedded itself into the military to the core. In fact we had a memo come down today in reference to what we can and can't call the ENEMY as to not offend them. How utterly stupid is it to worry about offending somebody you are trying to kill. If the ENEMY was not trying to kill us, than maybe I would be worried about offending said ENEMY! PC has unfortunately embedded itself into the military to the core. In fact we had a memo come down today in reference to what we can and can’t call the ENEMY as to not offend them. How utterly stupid is it to worry about offending somebody you are trying to kill. If the ENEMY was not trying to kill us, than maybe I would be worried about offending said ENEMY!

]]> By: Hoss http://www.black-and-right.com/2008/12/09/the-army%e2%80%99s-unequal-opportunity-program/comment-page-1/#comment-21883 Hoss Tue, 09 Dec 2008 01:55:33 +0000 http://www.black-and-right.com/?p=12629#comment-21883 Maybe the left should start working on getting rid of that whole ranking system. Why not obtain consensus before soldiers act on anything; that way everybody has a say in what happens, and nobody has their feelings hurt/self-esteem bruised because someone else has more "power" than they do. We deserve everything we get. We keep letting the candy-asses water everything down so that the meritocracy is completely obliterated in order to serve the average (or aggrieved). It keeps getting worse with our schools, the government, and now the military. God help us when the PC is in complete control of our nation's security. Another institution being destroyed without a shot being fired; seems to be a fairly common theme in this country, doesn't it. Maybe the left should start working on getting rid of that whole ranking system. Why not obtain consensus before soldiers act on anything; that way everybody has a say in what happens, and nobody has their feelings hurt/self-esteem bruised because someone else has more “power” than they do.

We deserve everything we get. We keep letting the candy-asses water everything down so that the meritocracy is completely obliterated in order to serve the average (or aggrieved). It keeps getting worse with our schools, the government, and now the military. God help us when the PC is in complete control of our nation’s security. Another institution being destroyed without a shot being fired; seems to be a fairly common theme in this country, doesn’t it.

]]> By: ChicagoRay http://www.black-and-right.com/2008/12/09/the-army%e2%80%99s-unequal-opportunity-program/comment-page-1/#comment-21875 ChicagoRay Tue, 09 Dec 2008 00:25:39 +0000 http://www.black-and-right.com/?p=12629#comment-21875 That's one hellacious post Mr Parks, quite informative and accurate as usual. Fine work here informing about the military's new deadly practice of kow towing to PC interests that now begin to put the soldiers in more harms way right here at home and on base as well as in the field. This country has gone mad in it's ridiculous attempts to create the liberal Utopian living and breathing land of milk and honey. May God bless America, all the branches of our fine Military, & their colorless members and families who protect us and our freedoms here and now everywhere day in and day out. That’s one hellacious post Mr Parks, quite informative and accurate as usual.

Fine work here informing about the military’s new deadly practice of kow towing to PC interests that now begin to put the soldiers in more harms way right here at home and on base as well as in the field. This country has gone mad in it’s ridiculous attempts to create the liberal Utopian living and breathing land of milk and honey. May God bless America, all the branches of our fine Military, & their colorless members and families who protect us and our freedoms here and now everywhere day in and day out.

]]> By: carolinagirl http://www.black-and-right.com/2008/12/09/the-army%e2%80%99s-unequal-opportunity-program/comment-page-1/#comment-21873 carolinagirl Mon, 08 Dec 2008 23:18:05 +0000 http://www.black-and-right.com/?p=12629#comment-21873 I am so proud that my sons are Marines - a Marine is a Marine is a Marine - no questions - no favoritism - they are Marines Semper Fi I am so proud that my sons are Marines – a Marine is a Marine is a Marine – no questions – no favoritism – they are Marines

Semper Fi

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