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		<title>By: tegthethird</title>
		<link>http://www.black-and-right.com/2008/10/25/clinton-judge-throws-out-bo-suit/comment-page-1/#comment-20095</link>
		<dc:creator>tegthethird</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 06:01:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Factcheck.org had a bunch of pictures; close-up, high resolution.  The certificate looked legit.  At the same time though, why didn&#039;t the Obama camp just produce the certificate instead of posting a grainy photo on the Fight the Smears site?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Factcheck.org had a bunch of pictures; close-up, high resolution.  The certificate looked legit.  At the same time though, why didn&#8217;t the Obama camp just produce the certificate instead of posting a grainy photo on the Fight the Smears site?</p>
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		<title>By: NYdonkeyrider</title>
		<link>http://www.black-and-right.com/2008/10/25/clinton-judge-throws-out-bo-suit/comment-page-1/#comment-20039</link>
		<dc:creator>NYdonkeyrider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2008 12:36:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ahmadinejad in 2012? Chavez as VP? Putin as House majority leader? A Muslim cleric in the Supreme Court?

Our government is so progressive we&#039;ve progressed beyond the Constitution.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ahmadinejad in 2012? Chavez as VP? Putin as House majority leader? A Muslim cleric in the Supreme Court?</p>
<p>Our government is so progressive we&#8217;ve progressed beyond the Constitution.</p>
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		<title>By: OldnyFirefighter</title>
		<link>http://www.black-and-right.com/2008/10/25/clinton-judge-throws-out-bo-suit/comment-page-1/#comment-20011</link>
		<dc:creator>OldnyFirefighter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Oct 2008 19:24:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, but wait!  Doesn&#039;t that mean Arnold Schwarzenegger can run for President. It must mean that, since you do not have to prove you are really a US citizen to run.  Candidate for 2012 Arnold Schwarzenegger or George Soros! yuck ? -George Soros- I must be losing my marbles.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, but wait!  Doesn&#8217;t that mean Arnold Schwarzenegger can run for President. It must mean that, since you do not have to prove you are really a US citizen to run.  Candidate for 2012 Arnold Schwarzenegger or George Soros! yuck ? -George Soros- I must be losing my marbles.</p>
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		<title>By: lpswampy</title>
		<link>http://www.black-and-right.com/2008/10/25/clinton-judge-throws-out-bo-suit/comment-page-1/#comment-20002</link>
		<dc:creator>lpswampy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Oct 2008 13:46:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Best of luck, TV. Thank you for your sacrifice and service to our country. I hope it&#039;s a better place when you return.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Best of luck, TV. Thank you for your sacrifice and service to our country. I hope it&#8217;s a better place when you return.</p>
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		<title>By: tv2112</title>
		<link>http://www.black-and-right.com/2008/10/25/clinton-judge-throws-out-bo-suit/comment-page-1/#comment-19996</link>
		<dc:creator>tv2112</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Oct 2008 06:35:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did Blaine actually say FACTS matter to him? Wow, he must have hit puberty. They have never mattered to him. Hell, he&#039;s made &quot;facts&quot; up for the last 3 months when he actually cared to chime in. Anyway, I&#039;m just chatting with the sane folks here. Be if Afghan winter wonderland soon!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did Blaine actually say FACTS matter to him? Wow, he must have hit puberty. They have never mattered to him. Hell, he&#8217;s made &#8220;facts&#8221; up for the last 3 months when he actually cared to chime in. Anyway, I&#8217;m just chatting with the sane folks here. Be if Afghan winter wonderland soon!</p>
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		<title>By: SlapShot</title>
		<link>http://www.black-and-right.com/2008/10/25/clinton-judge-throws-out-bo-suit/comment-page-1/#comment-19995</link>
		<dc:creator>SlapShot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Oct 2008 04:11:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Then there is the matter of &quot;with one parent being born in the U.S., said parent must have lived at least 10 years in the U.S., with 5 of those years coming after age 14&quot;   Said age would have to be 19, and she was 18 when he was born, making him not automatically eligible for U.S. citizenship.

That pesky internet, darn them for making that information possible for everybody that wants to look it up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Then there is the matter of &#8220;with one parent being born in the U.S., said parent must have lived at least 10 years in the U.S., with 5 of those years coming after age 14&#8243;   Said age would have to be 19, and she was 18 when he was born, making him not automatically eligible for U.S. citizenship.</p>
<p>That pesky internet, darn them for making that information possible for everybody that wants to look it up.</p>
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		<title>By: The Machine</title>
		<link>http://www.black-and-right.com/2008/10/25/clinton-judge-throws-out-bo-suit/comment-page-1/#comment-19992</link>
		<dc:creator>The Machine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Oct 2008 02:56:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wrong again, Blaine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wrong again, Blaine.</p>
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		<title>By: thekingtut</title>
		<link>http://www.black-and-right.com/2008/10/25/clinton-judge-throws-out-bo-suit/comment-page-1/#comment-19990</link>
		<dc:creator>thekingtut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Oct 2008 02:43:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Even if it turns out that he was born in Hawaii, there is still that whole pesky dual citizenship thing hanging over his head. He does not meet the qualifications to become president.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even if it turns out that he was born in Hawaii, there is still that whole pesky dual citizenship thing hanging over his head. He does not meet the qualifications to become president.</p>
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		<title>By: NYdonkeyrider</title>
		<link>http://www.black-and-right.com/2008/10/25/clinton-judge-throws-out-bo-suit/comment-page-1/#comment-19988</link>
		<dc:creator>NYdonkeyrider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Oct 2008 02:31:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re all acting like the Constitution matters anymore. It&#039;s a piece of paper now; just like a birth certificate. It&#039;s nice to have one or the other but not necessary in this day and age. 

Same with college transcripts and medical records.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re all acting like the Constitution matters anymore. It&#8217;s a piece of paper now; just like a birth certificate. It&#8217;s nice to have one or the other but not necessary in this day and age. </p>
<p>Same with college transcripts and medical records.</p>
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		<title>By: SlapShot</title>
		<link>http://www.black-and-right.com/2008/10/25/clinton-judge-throws-out-bo-suit/comment-page-1/#comment-19987</link>
		<dc:creator>SlapShot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Oct 2008 02:24:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There was a story about the 2 birth certificates on a PUMA website called No Quarter.    Apparently if you open up the PDF files of both the Kos certificate and the one on fight the smears,  and enlarge them massively, they both have different backgrounds.   And also, some of the letters are shaped differently.    Now I work with PDF files in printing and copying, and I know that is not possible with the same original.    Sorry, I could not find a link to that story.

2 plus 2 equals 5.   Right Blaine ????</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There was a story about the 2 birth certificates on a PUMA website called No Quarter.    Apparently if you open up the PDF files of both the Kos certificate and the one on fight the smears,  and enlarge them massively, they both have different backgrounds.   And also, some of the letters are shaped differently.    Now I work with PDF files in printing and copying, and I know that is not possible with the same original.    Sorry, I could not find a link to that story.</p>
<p>2 plus 2 equals 5.   Right Blaine ????</p>
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		<title>By: Blaine</title>
		<link>http://www.black-and-right.com/2008/10/25/clinton-judge-throws-out-bo-suit/comment-page-1/#comment-19986</link>
		<dc:creator>Blaine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Oct 2008 02:23:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;See, that was NOT a Birth Certificate in the first place, it is a Certificate of Live Birth. &lt;/blockquote&gt; I&#039;m beginning to see why I&#039;m not a conservative, facts matter to me, I just don&#039;t make them up:

http://www.tampabay.com/news/politics/article630058.ece

&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;It&#039;s a valid Hawaii state &lt;b&gt;birth certificate&lt;/b&gt;,&quot; spokesman Janice Okubo said&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>See, that was NOT a Birth Certificate in the first place, it is a Certificate of Live Birth. </p></blockquote>
<p> I&#8217;m beginning to see why I&#8217;m not a conservative, facts matter to me, I just don&#8217;t make them up:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.tampabay.com/news/politics/article630058.ece" rel="nofollow">http://www.tampabay.com/news/politics/article630058.ece</a></p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;It&#8217;s a valid Hawaii state <b>birth certificate</b>,&#8221; spokesman Janice Okubo said</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: The Machine</title>
		<link>http://www.black-and-right.com/2008/10/25/clinton-judge-throws-out-bo-suit/comment-page-1/#comment-19984</link>
		<dc:creator>The Machine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Oct 2008 00:18:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>See, that was NOT a Birth Certificate in the first place, it is a Certificate of Live Birth.  

I couldn&#039;t even get a passport or a decent clearance type job with a COLB and neither can you.  

&quot;Vault Copy&quot;  of Birth Certificate, please, just like every other US citizen must supply.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>See, that was NOT a Birth Certificate in the first place, it is a Certificate of Live Birth.  </p>
<p>I couldn&#8217;t even get a passport or a decent clearance type job with a COLB and neither can you.  </p>
<p>&#8220;Vault Copy&#8221;  of Birth Certificate, please, just like every other US citizen must supply.</p>
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		<title>By: Blaine</title>
		<link>http://www.black-and-right.com/2008/10/25/clinton-judge-throws-out-bo-suit/comment-page-1/#comment-19981</link>
		<dc:creator>Blaine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Oct 2008 20:52:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Well, if there was ever something to the whole Barack Obama birth certficate controversy, we&#039;ll never know the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth.&lt;/blockquote&gt;If only the Hawaii Department of Health would just come out and say it was a valid birth certificate he sent to politifact.com.

Oh, wait . . .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Well, if there was ever something to the whole Barack Obama birth certficate controversy, we&#8217;ll never know the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth.</p></blockquote>
<p>If only the Hawaii Department of Health would just come out and say it was a valid birth certificate he sent to politifact.com.</p>
<p>Oh, wait . . .</p>
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		<title>By: SlapShot</title>
		<link>http://www.black-and-right.com/2008/10/25/clinton-judge-throws-out-bo-suit/comment-page-1/#comment-19980</link>
		<dc:creator>SlapShot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Oct 2008 19:03:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In &quot;the October surprise&quot; video, Mr. Berg said he would appeal to the supreme court if he had to.    In case anybody dosen&#039;t know this, lawsuits have now been filed in 7 other states.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In &#8220;the October surprise&#8221; video, Mr. Berg said he would appeal to the supreme court if he had to.    In case anybody dosen&#8217;t know this, lawsuits have now been filed in 7 other states.</p>
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		<title>By: Pumbelo</title>
		<link>http://www.black-and-right.com/2008/10/25/clinton-judge-throws-out-bo-suit/comment-page-1/#comment-19979</link>
		<dc:creator>Pumbelo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Oct 2008 18:14:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The nonpartisan Web site FactCheck.org examined the original document and said it was legitimate.&quot;

Nonpartisan?
Original document?

They have to be kidding me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The nonpartisan Web site FactCheck.org examined the original document and said it was legitimate.&#8221;</p>
<p>Nonpartisan?<br />
Original document?</p>
<p>They have to be kidding me.</p>
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		<title>By: The Machine</title>
		<link>http://www.black-and-right.com/2008/10/25/clinton-judge-throws-out-bo-suit/comment-page-1/#comment-19978</link>
		<dc:creator>The Machine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Oct 2008 17:57:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bang, Bang, Bang.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bang, Bang, Bang.</p>
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		<title>By: TexRex</title>
		<link>http://www.black-and-right.com/2008/10/25/clinton-judge-throws-out-bo-suit/comment-page-1/#comment-19976</link>
		<dc:creator>TexRex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Oct 2008 17:23:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Quack, Quack, Quack.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quack, Quack, Quack.</p>
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		<title>By: JustADude</title>
		<link>http://www.black-and-right.com/2008/10/25/clinton-judge-throws-out-bo-suit/comment-page-1/#comment-19972</link>
		<dc:creator>JustADude</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Oct 2008 17:10:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He is able to appeal now and there are also at least 8 similar lawsuits in other states right now and growing to have Obama provide the proof or be taken off the ballot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He is able to appeal now and there are also at least 8 similar lawsuits in other states right now and growing to have Obama provide the proof or be taken off the ballot.</p>
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		<title>By: luckygreen</title>
		<link>http://www.black-and-right.com/2008/10/25/clinton-judge-throws-out-bo-suit/comment-page-1/#comment-19968</link>
		<dc:creator>luckygreen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Oct 2008 15:31:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Quote&quot;Obama could release a vault copy BC and the whole thing would be over.

But he has not done so.

McCain has done so long ago.&quot;

Agreed...it makes you wonder what else he will leave out if he becomes President.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quote&#8221;Obama could release a vault copy BC and the whole thing would be over.</p>
<p>But he has not done so.</p>
<p>McCain has done so long ago.&#8221;</p>
<p>Agreed&#8230;it makes you wonder what else he will leave out if he becomes President.</p>
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		<title>By: The Machine</title>
		<link>http://www.black-and-right.com/2008/10/25/clinton-judge-throws-out-bo-suit/comment-page-1/#comment-19965</link>
		<dc:creator>The Machine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Oct 2008 15:25:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One thing I&#039;ve learned about litigation over the years -- it ain&#039;t over until its over.  

There are plenty of legal avenues left open yet.  

Since one of the stated reasons deals with Berg&#039;s personal injury or lack thereof, perhaps a class action suit would alleviate that concern.  

As for the &quot;ridiculous&quot; and &quot;patently false&quot; stuff, along with the &quot;ventured into the unreasonable&quot; quotes, well, this is a veritable garden of legal challenges.  

At the bottom of all of this is still one simple fact:  

Obama could release a vault copy BC and the whole thing would be over.  

But he has not done so.  

McCain has done so long ago.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One thing I&#8217;ve learned about litigation over the years &#8212; it ain&#8217;t over until its over.  </p>
<p>There are plenty of legal avenues left open yet.  </p>
<p>Since one of the stated reasons deals with Berg&#8217;s personal injury or lack thereof, perhaps a class action suit would alleviate that concern.  </p>
<p>As for the &#8220;ridiculous&#8221; and &#8220;patently false&#8221; stuff, along with the &#8220;ventured into the unreasonable&#8221; quotes, well, this is a veritable garden of legal challenges.  </p>
<p>At the bottom of all of this is still one simple fact:  </p>
<p>Obama could release a vault copy BC and the whole thing would be over.  </p>
<p>But he has not done so.  </p>
<p>McCain has done so long ago.</p>
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